Comments on: Obama’s Trinity Church versus Clinton’s Trinity Church about 9/11 http://obamawho.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/obamas-trinity-church-versus-clintons-trinity-church-about-911/ Concerned Citizens of the United States Thu, 15 May 2008 17:20:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: ivote http://obamawho.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/obamas-trinity-church-versus-clintons-trinity-church-about-911/#comment-822 ivote Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:11:39 +0000 http://obamawho.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-822 The second one is better than the first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8HLL5ksl60 The second one is better than the first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8HLL5ksl60

]]> By: Pat http://obamawho.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/obamas-trinity-church-versus-clintons-trinity-church-about-911/#comment-776 Pat Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:18:06 +0000 http://obamawho.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-776 I hate to kick a guy when he is down but Obama is villifying Hillary while he refuses to come clean on several fronts. How many of those hate sermons did he really hear? In 17 years there are 884 sundays if he was only there 75% of the time he was in his pew 663 Sundays. Why didn't he try and help Rev. Wright see the error of his ways? After all this was a formative time in his life and as a future leader of the free world he could have started right there in his church helping to moderate the intolerance of his Minister. If he couldn't confront this man that he loves like the father he never knew then really tough guys like Putin and the Chinese leader will turn him into chopped liver. We don't need another wimp for the next 4 years. I hate to kick a guy when he is down but Obama is villifying Hillary while he refuses to come clean on several fronts. How many of those hate sermons did he really hear? In 17 years there are 884 sundays if he was only there 75% of the time he was in his pew 663 Sundays. Why didn’t he try and help Rev. Wright see the error of his ways? After all this was a formative time in his life and as a future leader of the free world he could have started right there in his church helping to moderate the intolerance of his Minister. If he couldn’t confront this man that he loves like the father he never knew then really tough guys like Putin and the Chinese leader will turn him into chopped liver. We don’t need another wimp for the next 4 years.

]]> By: Cl McDonald http://obamawho.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/obamas-trinity-church-versus-clintons-trinity-church-about-911/#comment-750 Cl McDonald Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:59:01 +0000 http://obamawho.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-750 Thank you for this site and posting. It is good to find media, such as you site, having this needed conversation. I found your site this afternoon as a result of being sick of the Obama media propaganda blitzing against Hillary and ignoring fair and balanced coverage, and did a search. I am completely fed up with the ridiculous media mongering of Hillary Clinton (coverage that merely slams or ignores adequate matters that both candidates). Being a long time active Democrat, there is no question -- when having done extensive, credible research homework -- that Clinton is by far (I repeat, by far) the very best candidate to step into the executive job of the U.S. As citizens, we have been duped so long and so horribly by Bush, his entire administration, the Republican Party and all its candidates. We are also continuing to be lied to and 24/7 media blitzed with false Obama rhetoric. Does anyone remember or know about snake oil? Plainly, after much homework, Obama has some real issues that make him presently unprepared, unable, or unwilling to do the job position and job work we, as citizens and as a nation need. Obama can continue getting experience in the Senate for his greeness, but it is Hillary Clinton who is prepared and can do the best job from the minute she begins the job's work for us citizens and our country. She is the best job candidate for the job position -- hands down. Speeches don't get the work that we need. We've had too many lame and false speeches for the past eight years. The media propaganda blitz building up Obama and McCain that we are currently experiencing is very reminiscent of Hitler's administrative, national propaganda power campaigning to the public. It is historically of interest to know the Bush family not only personally liked Hitler (as a person and with the saying "birds of a feather flock together"), but did oil business one-on-one with him. What has that got to do with today? In more current times, George, Sr. and George, Jr. absolutely love German-type business methods (e.g. Gestapo type business mode inclusive of torture, killing and kidnapping). What has this got to do with our present media blitz glamorizing Obama (or McCain)? Gestapo-style operations is what we have been experiencing -- and still are -- with the Obama propaganda media blitz. I, and many of my fellow Democrats, are sick of the Obama media coverage. We want to see a lot more media coverage "for" Hillary, with adequate and needed discussion on the issues -- rather than scapegoating or vilifying against her. There is a lot of good to discuss about her past work, her present work, and her future, and her ability to do the positive work in the job of executive of this nation. Let's get some good, necessary, positive, and discussion opening media coverage going for Hillary Clinton. How can we start creating and implementing large-scale positive and visible media coverage for Hillary right now? Set up many online blogs, online small newspapers, etc.? Like many thousands of Democrats across the nation, I'm totally sick of Obama propaganda from all sources, and as with George Bush, Jr., we are now turning him off and out. I, and others, look forward to your many suggestions to go forward from here in helping to break through the media wall positively, timely and largely. Thank you for this site and posting.
It is good to find media, such as you site, having this needed conversation. I found your site this afternoon as a result of being sick of the Obama media propaganda blitzing against Hillary and ignoring fair and balanced coverage, and did a search. I am completely fed up with the ridiculous media mongering of Hillary Clinton (coverage that merely slams or ignores adequate matters that both candidates). Being a long time active Democrat, there is no question — when having done extensive, credible research homework — that Clinton is by far (I repeat, by far) the very best candidate to step into the executive job of the U.S. As citizens, we have been duped so long and so horribly by Bush, his entire administration, the Republican Party and all its candidates. We are also continuing to be lied to and 24/7 media blitzed with false Obama rhetoric. Does anyone remember or know about snake oil? Plainly, after much homework, Obama has some real issues that make him presently unprepared, unable, or unwilling to do the job position and job work we, as citizens and as a nation need. Obama can continue getting experience in the Senate for his greeness, but it is Hillary Clinton who is prepared and can do the best job from the minute she begins the job’s work for us citizens and our country. She is the best job candidate for the job position — hands down. Speeches don’t get the work that we need. We’ve had too many lame and false speeches for the past eight years.

The media propaganda blitz building up Obama and McCain that we are currently experiencing is very reminiscent of Hitler’s administrative, national propaganda power campaigning to the public. It is historically of interest to know the Bush family not only personally liked Hitler (as a person and with the saying “birds of a feather flock together”), but did oil business one-on-one with him. What has that got to do with today? In more current times, George, Sr. and George, Jr. absolutely love German-type business methods (e.g. Gestapo type business mode inclusive of torture, killing and kidnapping). What has this got to do with our present media blitz glamorizing Obama (or McCain)? Gestapo-style operations is what we have been experiencing — and still are — with the Obama propaganda media blitz.

I, and many of my fellow Democrats, are sick of the Obama media coverage. We want to see a lot more media coverage “for” Hillary, with adequate and needed discussion on the issues — rather than scapegoating or vilifying against her. There is a lot of good to discuss about her past work, her present work, and her future, and her ability to do the positive work in the job of executive of this nation. Let’s get some good, necessary, positive, and discussion opening media coverage going for Hillary Clinton.

How can we start creating and implementing large-scale positive and visible media coverage for Hillary right now? Set up many online blogs, online small newspapers, etc.? Like many thousands of Democrats across the nation, I’m totally sick of Obama propaganda from all sources, and as with George Bush, Jr., we are now turning him off and out. I, and others, look forward to your many suggestions to go forward from here in helping to break through the media wall positively, timely and largely.

]]> By: Marty http://obamawho.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/obamas-trinity-church-versus-clintons-trinity-church-about-911/#comment-736 Marty Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:17:05 +0000 http://obamawho.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-736 It is so nice to have a place to come and chat with people who feel like I do:) I do not understand how Obama is getting away with the things he is doing. Obama's pastor is not going to go away. That man insulted the very core of our country and I firmly believe so did Obama by staying there for 20 years and listening to it. Obama is the biggest liar I have ever seen. He lies about everything even when he was born. The man will say anything to get elected and he does not care who he steps on in the process. To be honest I am so sick of watching him bash Hillary and Mc Cain that I could puke. He is screaming about Hillary's taxes, he is screaming about her Bosnia trip, he whines and whines and whines and he gets so desperate that he has to bring Bill into it all the time. He screamed like a little girl about her schedule as first lady but on the other hand he does NOT have his from the senate? What a jerk. I can't wait for this election to be over with and if that liar gets the candidacy I go Mc Cain. He will make a fine President if we can't get Hillary. It is so nice to have a place to come and chat with people who feel like I do :) I do not understand how Obama is getting away with the things he is doing. Obama’s pastor is not going to go away. That man insulted the very core of our country and I firmly believe so did Obama by staying there for 20 years and listening to it. Obama is the biggest liar I have ever seen. He lies about everything even when he was born. The man will say anything to get elected and he does not care who he steps on in the process. To be honest I am so sick of watching him bash Hillary and Mc Cain that I could puke. He is screaming about Hillary’s taxes, he is screaming about her Bosnia trip, he whines and whines and whines and he gets so desperate that he has to bring Bill into it all the time. He screamed like a little girl about her schedule as first lady but on the other hand he does NOT have his from the senate? What a jerk. I can’t wait for this election to be over with and if that liar gets the candidacy I go Mc Cain. He will make a fine President if we can’t get Hillary.

]]> By: Ron http://obamawho.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/obamas-trinity-church-versus-clintons-trinity-church-about-911/#comment-735 Ron Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:09:56 +0000 http://obamawho.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-735 There are those at the top of the Democratic Party who do not care if we win the election or not. I agree with you Jennifer that these people could be doing a lot more than they are. It is a shame that Howard Dean is not trying to bring this party together but he does nothing at all. Brazille is so in the tank for Obama it is all over her. I cringe every time I see these Obama numbers rising in the false polls as they can't be believed either unless it is PPP or the like. The bias of the media is keeping this man in the center light and people do not get enough of a break from him to take the time and let it all settle. It is a shame that people think it is ok to disenfranchised two states and scream they broke the rules and hey, who made the rules? Howard Dean and Brazille. I do not think this party is going to recover from this and it is a real shame that such a qualified candidate as Hillary is being branded a liar when the true liar is being ignored. Obama needs to explain a lot of things and he just isn't doing it. There are those at the top of the Democratic Party who do not care if we win the election or not. I agree with you Jennifer that these people could be doing a lot more than they are. It is a shame that Howard Dean is not trying to bring this party together but he does nothing at all. Brazille is so in the tank for Obama it is all over her. I cringe every time I see these Obama numbers rising in the false polls as they can’t be believed either unless it is PPP or the like. The bias of the media is keeping this man in the center light and people do not get enough of a break from him to take the time and let it all settle. It is a shame that people think it is ok to disenfranchised two states and scream they broke the rules and hey, who made the rules? Howard Dean and Brazille. I do not think this party is going to recover from this and it is a real shame that such a qualified candidate as Hillary is being branded a liar when the true liar is being ignored. Obama needs to explain a lot of things and he just isn’t doing it.

]]> By: Jennifer http://obamawho.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/obamas-trinity-church-versus-clintons-trinity-church-about-911/#comment-733 Jennifer Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:39:46 +0000 http://obamawho.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-733 I, for one, have many relevant issues with Obama, including unanswered questions that he and his campaign managers do not seem to want to address and the media thinks is perfectly alright to ignore. Furthermore, the questions surrounding his affiliation with his church and pastor and some of the outrageous things that his pastor has said seems to have been smoothed over, at least by the mainstream media, Obama's campaign people, and his supporters. If the shoe were on the other foot, and Hillary's pastor had said even half the things Obama's pastor did, the actions would be aggressively condemned over and over again-and even worse.... Obama's supporters in the Democratic party are also now increasingly asking for Hillary to get out of the race and are demanding the race end soon, with the mainstream media giving their demands high visibility and support. However, it seems that Democrats like myself, who support Hillary Clinton, are not being taken seriously by the party or the mainstream media and our opinions and reasonable questions do not really matter. Hillary is unfairly being pressured to step down more and more each day and yet the man who is promoted so vigorously to be our next President has many concerning issues that continue to go unresearched and unreported. Finally, it is a shame that we are not hearing from more Democratic Party leaders who can stand back and take a more objective stand rather than promote Obama's nomination and support him to the media, or turn against a candidate who has been with the party and has been loyal to it for many years. The questionable attempt now being made to aggressively push Obama's nomination at the expense of negatively tearing down another ot its very own candidates does not send a positive message to voters nor show the Democratic Party's leadership. I, for one, have many relevant issues with Obama, including unanswered questions that he and his campaign managers do not seem to want to address and the media thinks is perfectly alright to ignore. Furthermore, the questions surrounding his affiliation with his church and pastor and some of the outrageous things that his pastor has said seems to have been smoothed over, at least by the mainstream media, Obama’s campaign people, and his supporters. If the shoe were on the other foot, and Hillary’s pastor had said even half the things Obama’s pastor did, the actions would be aggressively condemned over and over again-and even worse…. Obama’s supporters in the Democratic party are also now increasingly asking for Hillary to get out of the race and are demanding the race end soon, with the mainstream media giving their demands high visibility and support. However, it seems that Democrats like myself, who support Hillary Clinton, are not being taken seriously by the party or the mainstream media and our opinions and reasonable questions do not really matter. Hillary is unfairly being pressured to step down more and more each day and yet the man who is promoted so vigorously to be our next President has many concerning issues that continue to go unresearched and unreported. Finally, it is a shame that we are not hearing from more Democratic Party leaders who can stand back and take a more objective stand rather than promote Obama’s nomination and support him to the media, or turn against a candidate who has been with the party and has been loyal to it for many years. The questionable attempt now being made to aggressively push Obama’s nomination at the expense of negatively tearing down another ot its very own candidates does not send a positive message to voters nor show the Democratic Party’s leadership.

]]> By: Jayden http://obamawho.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/obamas-trinity-church-versus-clintons-trinity-church-about-911/#comment-731 Jayden Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:18:00 +0000 http://obamawho.wordpress.com/?p=176#comment-731 Love her, she is so sweet. The preacher on the other hand can leave America any time he wants. Love her, she is so sweet. The preacher on the other hand can leave America any time he wants.

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